(01:02:36 PM) lulzbotbam: around?
(01:29:33 PM) BubbleRep: hi
(01:29:52 PM) lulzbotbam: how's it going?
(01:29:57 PM) BubbleRep: boss had yesterday the meeting for your sample hotend, should get it in a few days
(01:31:14 PM) lulzbotbam: Awesome! any Idea when we could get a first batch of them after we test it? We want to try to launch a high temp printhead as soon as we can :)
(01:31:30 PM) BubbleRep: wanted to solve another problem first, some could push the tube out of the fin area got the samples for those yesterday, looked good so yours should get that already
(01:31:46 PM) BubbleRep: i would guess a 1-2 weeks after you gave the go
(01:32:02 PM) BubbleRep: the sample one i think we should be able to send end of the week
(01:33:38 PM) lulzbotbam: sounds great, thanks!
(05/21/2014 08:37:45 AM) lulzbotbam: around?
(08:37:54 AM) BubbleRep: hi
(08:38:07 AM) lulzbotbam: hey!
(08:38:49 AM) lulzbotbam: would it be possible to get 15 samples of the newest version hex by 6/16?
(08:39:06 AM) BubbleRep: i think so, yeah, but need to double check it
(08:39:13 AM) lulzbotbam: we're moving into DVT testing of the new printer and I'd like to have those on it :)
(08:39:23 AM) lulzbotbam: cool, could you let me know?
(08:39:35 AM) BubbleRep: yeah i'll try to find out till tomorrow
(08:40:00 AM) lulzbotbam: awesome, Thank you so much!
(05/23/2014 08:11:19 AM) lulzbotbam: hey!
(08:11:29 AM) BubbleRep: hi, sorry didn't got it out of my boss yet
(08:11:46 AM) BubbleRep: but i haven't forgotton you
(08:12:11 AM) lulzbotbam: no worries
(08:12:19 AM) BubbleRep: ah but one confusion: jeff asked for 45 now?
(08:13:40 AM) lulzbotbam: aah I hadn't heard that, he may be planning for the next 2 phases of the new printer, or looking to send out an early run of high temp TAZ toolheads.
(08:14:00 AM) lulzbotbam: I'd go with what he said, I'll try to find out when he gets in
(08:14:43 AM) BubbleRep: he asked for quotes for those for now, so didn't directly order those
(08:16:06 AM) lulzbotbam: aah cool. I think we'll be wanting to order them as soon as possible, probably today if that's doable for you guys
(08:17:15 AM) BubbleRep: i told our guys already about the 15, but didn't got a feedback yet, could be that my boss wants to wait for the first sample
(08:17:26 AM) BubbleRep: but need to catch him in a quiet moment to clear that
(08:17:48 AM) lulzbotbam: definitely understand that
(08:19:25 AM) lulzbotbam: do you think it would be possible to get a few of the nozzles before that 6/16 date?
(08:23:51 AM) BubbleRep: yeah we should be able to get you those
(08:23:59 AM) BubbleRep: boss ordered 50 samples as far as i know
(08:25:11 AM) lulzbotbam: awesome. Are there any other changes outside of the wrap around the heaterblock?
(08:26:12 AM) BubbleRep: the changes you requested + the rubber and one change which prevents the tube from coming out, because some were able to push that strong that the tube came out
(08:30:28 AM) lulzbotbam: sounds great, that's all I needed
(08:31:05 AM) lulzbotbam: thanks man! I'll let you know as soon as I hear from Jeff
(08:31:11 AM) BubbleRep: josefprusa used firecement on his hotnd for HC and thermistor
(08:32:05 AM) lulzbotbam: cool! know of any downsides apart from messy assembly?
(08:32:47 AM) BubbleRep: if you have a broken thermistor you will have to throw away the hotend...
(08:33:11 AM) BubbleRep: and if it's in warranty time you even have to exchange the whole hotend
(08:33:16 AM) lulzbotbam: yeah, that is definitely a downside haha
(08:33:59 AM) lulzbotbam: can you swap out the thermistor with the rubber heaterblock coating?
(08:34:07 AM) BubbleRep: yeah
(08:34:25 AM) BubbleRep: you can take of the rubber thing compeletly in seconds
(08:36:03 AM) lulzbotbam: awesome. this is going to be great
(08:37:33 AM) BubbleRep: https://www.dropbox.com/s/whdgwk9itheagud/mmexport1400855736572.jpg
(08:38:01 AM) BubbleRep: the bottom fin is a bit more thick and the tube fixt to it
(08:38:25 AM) BubbleRep: what do you plan cable wise, something like this https://www.dropbox.com/s/1cs8e18c6ta2k5w/mmexport1400855746673.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/k1uz9lw4fte5h18/mmexport1400855752081.jpg
(08:40:39 AM) lulzbotbam: pretty close, we're probably going to stick with the heater and thermistor in the same 4 pin connector so that it'll be a direct drop in for our current budashnozzle
(08:40:39 AM) lulzbotbam:  
(08:41:16 AM) lulzbotbam: Kinda like that. http://www.lulzbot.com/products/budaschnozzle-20c-w-05mm-nozzle
(08:41:28 AM) BubbleRep: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bgdwhysotajqbv9/2014-05-23%2016.40.35.jpg
(08:42:21 AM) lulzbotbam: looks great. what's the max temp of the rubber?
(08:42:34 AM) BubbleRep: 450°C as far as i remember
(08:44:30 AM) lulzbotbam: niice
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(11:45:25 AM) lulzbotbam: Heyo. Got a minute?
(11:46:15 AM) BubbleRep: hi
(11:46:42 AM) lulzbotbam: how's it going?
(11:47:20 AM) BubbleRep: fine so far, jeff showed you the pictures?
(11:47:48 AM) lulzbotbam: not yet, I'm excited to see them
(11:48:46 AM) lulzbotbam: any new news on the eta of those hotends?
(11:49:04 AM) BubbleRep: only waiting for the heater blocks
(11:49:30 AM) BubbleRep: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ea5r6k0hnazo2id/MIA%25%4023OL%5D2%28%60KZ8%24%400U3%7DH.jpg
(11:50:13 AM) lulzbotbam: mmmmm, those look really nice :)
(11:50:42 AM) lulzbotbam: the set screw holds the steel tube into the heatsink?
(11:50:43 AM) BubbleRep: that picture is 1 weeks old
(11:50:46 AM) BubbleRep: yeah
(11:51:32 AM) BubbleRep: only thing we will not do for the samples are the rubbers
(11:51:49 AM) BubbleRep:  But one thing we will not be able to make before the production run, the rubber for the bigger heatblock. Since this requires a molding which is quite expensive, but we will add the rubber for the current heatblock so you can try it with those. They will just not be closed totaly and not look that nice as the final version would. 
(11:53:44 AM) BubbleRep: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qi7stipxhtfx4fn/mmexport1401817941992.jpg
(11:54:23 AM) lulzbotbam: makes sense. could that be set up to get production hotends by september?
(11:54:47 AM) BubbleRep: yeah for production with 1000 pieces a batch that will be doable
(11:54:55 AM) lulzbotbam: nice :)
(11:55:16 AM) BubbleRep: just for samples it makes no sense to make a molding for  1000-2000$
(11:55:34 AM) lulzbotbam: sounds great, definitely understand that
(11:59:46 AM) lulzbotbam: as a side note, do you have the latest version of the stock hotend on hand (with the rubber covering), or is it still in the first round of production as well
(12:00:34 PM) BubbleRep: we don't sell the hotend with the rubber yet, we had 500 rubbers to ship for testing, guess a few hundreds are still left
(12:08:10 PM) lulzbotbam: good to know. when are you expecting to start selling those?
(12:08:20 PM) BubbleRep: no idea
(12:08:41 PM) BubbleRep: need to ask my boss that, guess if a dealer asks to buy those we probably would sell them
(12:10:10 PM) lulzbotbam: cool. I'm thinking that if we can't get enough testing in before the design gets locked down for the TAZ mini, it might make sense to just roll with the stock hexagon and then update to the extended heater block in the second production run
(12:16:00 PM) lulzbotbam: just a thought. we need to nail down the production nozzle by 6/23, and this is definitely the favorite
(12:17:02 PM) BubbleRep: i think the missing parts are ready this sometime this week
(12:19:28 PM) lulzbotbam: awesome :)
(12:20:13 PM) BubbleRep: you want all 45 directly?
(12:25:55 PM) lulzbotbam: that'd be great, but if it'd be quicker to get a few of them sooner then I'd like to do that
(12:51:21 PM) lulzbotbam: gettin out of here, thanks again!
(06/04/2014 07:43:41 AM) BubbleRep: hi
(07:43:44 AM) BubbleRep: you want 3mm right?
(07:44:14 AM) lulzbotbam: hey!
(07:44:27 AM) lulzbotbam: yep, It's all we're running for now.
(07:44:41 AM) lulzbotbam: .5mm nozzles as well if possible
(07:45:08 AM) BubbleRep: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ge3yu3h33esmzm/mmexport1401889451209.jpg
(07:47:03 AM) lulzbotbam: Nice!!
(07:47:15 AM) lulzbotbam: It looks great
(07:47:21 AM) BubbleRep: do you guyys have semitec thermistors on stock?
(07:47:54 AM) BubbleRep: since the thermistor hole is for semitec gt2 thermistors, but ours are occupied for the next 2 weeks
(07:48:04 AM) lulzbotbam: need to check, but I don't believe so
(07:48:25 AM) lulzbotbam: we could probably get some in to test
(07:48:48 AM) BubbleRep: would probably be best or you drill it out a bit more for epcos 100ks
(07:49:41 AM) BubbleRep: anyway, i think that is a small issue for testing the machines/hotends
(07:49:53 AM) lulzbotbam: definitely
(07:52:39 AM) lulzbotbam: is it sized for the same thermistor that comes in the normal Hexagon hotend set?
(07:53:35 AM) BubbleRep: nope, those were epcos 100k
(07:54:17 AM) BubbleRep: but since we were able to source semitec gt2s we want to switch to those in the future since those are realy rated for 300°C, epcos are actually not realy rated to work till 300°C even though they usually do
(07:54:56 AM) lulzbotbam: aah cool, good to know
(07:55:42 AM) lulzbotbam: does the quote you gave us include the rest of the set (heater, thermistor, mounting plate)? I haven't actually seen it
(07:56:59 AM) BubbleRep: yeah
(07:57:29 AM) lulzbotbam: awesome
(07:57:49 AM) BubbleRep: in future all with those 2 connector versions
(07:58:23 AM) BubbleRep: heater/thermistor -> 10cm cable -> connector -> cable (i think 90cm) -> connector
(07:59:48 AM) BubbleRep: not sure if i showed you the pictore of those
(08:00:35 AM) BubbleRep: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1cs8e18c6ta2k5w/mmexport1400855746673.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/k1uz9lw4fte5h18/mmexport1400855752081.jpg
(08:01:14 AM) lulzbotbam: aah cool. We're just now working on the wire routing for the new machine, but it's looking like we're going to have a custom harness up to the print head (looking at running 14-16 leads). Not sure if it would be easier for you guys to leave some of that out, but we'll probably be hacking it up in house
(08:02:22 AM) BubbleRep: if you have a sample of such a harness let us know maybe we can do those for you, so that it directly fits with hotend, thermistor and such
(08:02:31 AM) lulzbotbam: looks good, that pre-crimped thermistor is awesome
(08:02:45 AM) BubbleRep: but that's still old
(08:02:55 AM) lulzbotbam: cool, we should have one in the next couple of weeks 
(08:03:05 AM) BubbleRep: new ones have better insulation then the ptfe tubes
(08:03:21 AM) lulzbotbam: have you guys thought of selling pre-assembled versions?
(08:03:25 AM) lulzbotbam: nice :)
(08:03:32 AM) BubbleRep: pre assembled versions of what?
(08:03:41 AM) lulzbotbam: the hotends
(08:04:05 AM) lulzbotbam: there's not a whole lot of assembly, but I thought I'd check
(08:05:30 AM) BubbleRep: most stuff is assembled jsut thermistor and heater cartridge not thrown in, no idea if my boss would want to do that, could mean a whole lot new headache ^^
(08:06:29 AM) lulzbotbam: agreed, we're also set up to make a whole bunch of them here
(08:07:03 AM) lulzbotbam: well I gotta run off to a meeting, thanks man
(08:07:16 AM) BubbleRep: cu just wanted to confirm the 3mm :)
(08:08:00 AM) lulzbotbam: sweet!
(01:01:19 PM) lulzbotbam: heyo, still around?
(01:01:25 PM) BubbleRep: hi
(01:03:31 PM) lulzbotbam: just got out of a meeting about the printer these nozzles are going on
(01:04:12 PM) lulzbotbam: Jeff was confused about the 45 order, would it be possible to get in the first 15 and then order the other 30 around the end of the month once we've verified them?
(01:04:26 PM) BubbleRep: yeah
(01:05:02 PM) lulzbotbam: awesome. any updates on the eta?
(01:05:25 PM) BubbleRep: i think we can ship them monday, but need to verify that
(01:06:04 PM) lulzbotbam: that's awesome
(01:06:18 PM) lulzbotbam: really excited about these
(01:07:05 PM) lulzbotbam: have you seen the most recent version of the printer?
(01:07:17 PM) BubbleRep: nope
(01:16:01 PM) lulzbotbam: http://devel.lulzbot.com/Easy_TAZ_Mini/begonia/Begonia.jpg
(01:16:18 PM) lulzbotbam: thought we had a better render than that, but it's the basic idea
(01:16:59 PM) lulzbotbam: but with a full linux computer and 7" touchscreen on board
(01:17:16 PM) BubbleRep: yeah saw the a20 mini pc and such
(01:17:20 PM) lulzbotbam: and a hex nozzle of course ;)
(01:17:31 PM) lulzbotbam: it's going to be pretty sweet
(01:21:06 PM) lulzbotbam: we're also looking at swapping to an a80 to speed up slicing
(01:22:21 PM) BubbleRep: i would probably prefer a atom board
(01:23:26 PM) lulzbotbam: yeah, that'd be pretty slick
(01:24:49 PM) BubbleRep: such itx boards are cheap too
(01:25:41 PM) lulzbotbam: how cheap?
(01:26:05 PM) BubbleRep: 56€
(01:26:24 PM) BubbleRep: and that's endcustomer price in europe
(01:26:43 PM) lulzbotbam: dang. that's pretty nice
(01:26:56 PM) BubbleRep: http://geizhals.at/de/asrock-q1900b-itx-90-mxgtr0-a0uayz-a1089506.html
(01:27:29 PM) BubbleRep: still needs ram and some storage, so add 10€ for 2gb ram and 5$ for a usb stick or so
(01:29:37 PM) lulzbotbam: not bad, I'll bring it up. I think we're looking at around $40 for the a20 and ~$70 for the a80
(01:30:03 PM) BubbleRep: look for such a board at us based price comparison pages
(01:30:07 PM) BubbleRep: probably even cheaper
(01:30:15 PM) BubbleRep: mostly its 1:1 conversion
(01:30:25 PM) BubbleRep: so probabl 56USD
(01:31:13 PM) lulzbotbam: wow, that's really nice
(01:31:32 PM) BubbleRep: http://www.amazon.com/ECS-Elitegroup-J1800-BAT-I-1-0/dp/B00JST5630/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1401910271&sr=8-6&keywords=J1800
(01:47:46 PM) lulzbotbam: thanks for the tip man, I've passed it on to the powers that be